Point noted, not the best choice, I would have preferred to hear 'I have forgiven Jesus' or even 'The World is full of Crashing Bores' as this single, but then I suppose it's a case of consolodating (sp?) his postion this year and mid-period Morrissey is still as good as most things out there. Oh and by the way, it's called 'First of the Gang to Die', but I won't get all Morrissey obsessive on you. Well, just yet anyway.

It's one of the standout tracks from the album, so i'm not suprised it's a single. My wife thinks it's the best of the bunch just for the line "Think of somebody you physically admire and kiss me" (roughly). That is a pretty good line, I must admit. Still, my fave is Come Back To Camden. But I'm getting a bit bored of all the people slating Moz for being less good than he used to be, when a lot of his output is still better than 90% of bands.

Morrissey: "Let me kiss you."
Me: "No thanks, you crusty, egotistical whinger..."

Why don't Morrissey, Johnny Lydon and Bono just fucking piss off like they should of done 20 years ago when they were actually decent and people my age listened to them, Proof? "My wife thinks it's the best of the bunch".

I just hope I'm not listening to doherty's solo singles in 20 years and reliving the glory days of the libs, Then I will know I am an old fogy

"I just hope I'm not listening to doherty's solo singles in 20 years and reliving the glory days of the libs..."

....do I even need to say anything?

morrisey's still got it. if he didn't he wouldn't still be able to sell gigs out as fast as he does. and i've been to 2 off the latest tour and there were probably an equal portion of people under 30 than there were over 30.
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But what are the b-sides like? There usually pretty good, and thats the only reason i'd buy the single.

Ageism the same as Racism? Thats a bit silly now isn't it. The plain truth is Morrissey is a brilliant song writer he's shown that with 'Sheila take a bow', 'What difference does it make' and 'Ask' but has he even come close to those songs since the smiths split so whats the point? My main point (that you all missed) was no matter what your age you can still follow what the smiths legacy has influenced (Bloc Party, the Departure, the Libertines) which is new music. In twenty years time I hope I'm listening to bands that the libertines and interpol have influenced and not Doherty's shit single stuff, pretending that it's as good as the libs.

P.S (Im not saying that all old music is shit, just people like morrissey living off old glorys)

"If Oldies like you and my dad liked the libs and departure then i wouldn't listen to it"

I dont hate this comment, im not going to judge this comment like alot of other people would on here, but i do feel sorry for you, i really do. So, any music that your parents listen to is "old" music, is "dads" music so you dont like it, instantly? Isnt it possiblt maybe to give it a listen and judge it on its own merit instead of judging on when it was recorded and the type of people who, on average, listen to it?

And for a previous comment, i must agree that saying "im not gonna listen to your music or like what you like because you're old" is just as pathetic outlook on life as "im not gonna listen to your music cos you're black", in my opinion.

Ive just say turned twenty and just because my folks, and others of a older generation listen to Morrissey, Led Zep, Tim Buckley, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, The Beatles etc etc doesnt mean it isnt all music I've come to respect and love. A good album written 20, 30 years ago is still a good album today, in most cases, music does date but you can't judge it to be shit in the modern day just because of the way it sounded when it was recorded in the 60's, technology has progressed, you know? And who else do you expect to have listened to Pink Floyd and whoever when they were around? We werent, all we can do is catch up, and if someone my age refuses to do that just on an age factor i really dont understand the logic in that, all of them, including yourself are missing out. If you're into the Departure and The libs or whoever else, i dont see why you shouldnt still feel you could listen to them in ten and twenty years time.

"If Oldies like you and my dad liked the libs and departure then i wouldn't listen to it"

I dont hate this comment, im not going to judge this comment like alot of other people would on here, but i do feel sorry for you, i really do. So, any music that your parents listen to is "old" music, is "dads" music so you dont like it, instantly? Isnt it possiblt maybe to give it a listen and judge it on its own merit instead of judging on when it was recorded and the type of people who, on average, listen to it?

And for a previous comment, i must agree that saying "im not gonna listen to your music or like what you like because you're old" is just as pathetic outlook on life as "im not gonna listen to your music cos you're black", in my opinion.

Ive just say turned twenty and just because my folks, and others of a older generation listen to Morrissey, Led Zep, Tim Buckley, Bob Dylan, Leonard Cohen, The Beatles etc etc doesnt mean it isnt all music I've come to respect and love. A good album written 20, 30 years ago is still a good album today, in most cases, music does date but you can't judge it to be shit in the modern day just because of the way it sounded when it was recorded in the 60's, technology has progressed, you know? And who else do you expect to have listened to Pink Floyd and whoever when they were around? We werent, all we can do is catch up, and if someone my age refuses to do that just on an age factor i really dont understand the logic in that, all of them, including yourself are missing out. If you're into the Departure and The libs or whoever else, i dont see why you shouldnt still feel you could listen to them in ten and twenty years time.

You think your so clever when all you have done is spouted a load of bullshit. I am not that much of a prick so i will put it simply for you:

Morrissey = was good
Morrissey = now shit

Generally, all the old bands my dad likes are good, but all the new bands he likes sound like pale copies of those bands. Same way that Moz sounds like a bad copy of the smiths.

I don't think old people should be allowed on the internet because they miss the point and get arsey.

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i think this J guy just follows me around DiS missing the point of everything i post, thus proving the point i didn't make.

as a rule of thumb, dickhead, if it looks too stupid to be a real opinion then it probably isn't.