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The Futureheads: Decent Days And Nights

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by Gareth Dobson
What should be a victorious lap of honour round the country for the Futureheads has somehow managed to in fact, turn into an eye-of-the-storm type affair, as the North East chaps finally, finally earn the public acclaim that had evaded them up until Christmas.

Following the really rather tremendous success of their punka-Bush cover of 'Hounds Of Love', and a massive NME-tour leg up, it looks like 2005, not 2004 is going to be their year. Which means dusting off the old marketing plans and going for broke one more time as the band's weary limbs wobble-jitter around the globe in a groundhog day flourish.

Fittingly, 'Decent Days And Nights' is another back-to-the-start pointer, this being released a year ago, when a lot less people actually cared. It's been re-touched, but is essentially the same storming pop song it always was. Both single and band are set for new and deserved acclamation now; funny how these things happen...

  • The Futureheads 8 / 10

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Bring it on. Let's see them in arenas... how odd would that be?

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Saw at Radio 1 Big Weekend Yesterday... they fooking rocked!!

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Great song, not so great that they've joined the reissue/repackage/re-release set though.

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Big fat TUNE-afish.

Just like every other song on their album.

THE FUTUREHEADS ARE FUCKING GREAT.

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this is definitely my favourite futureheads track. how can it be ignored. well..not anymore i guess. yay.

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I would say that I liked this and I do but I'm just so mad at the whole re-release thing. So they've put the main riff at the beginning, so what, if it was good enough, people would have liked it first time around. Anyway the Futureheads have a whole album of other tracks they could release, why go back to where you started and lose credibility as a band.

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nothing's more important than credibility amongst anal indie losers, after all ...

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Fucking hell. Great song but why re-release it?! Anyone genuinely into them now that wasn't last year ought to just take a deep breath and rifle through the old singles section in their music outlet of choice. It won't take long. For fuck sake rereleasing should be made illegal.
Oooo - possible dissertation question for next year yay!

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Admittedly, the decision to re-release this is slightly odd - it wasn't completely ignored last time. Mid 20s in the chart I think?

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M-M-M-MYYYY SHHARONAAAA

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Heh heh heh.

Yep. Nice sound. Great cover. Now write some tunes!

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why on earth did they cut and paste the riff onto the beginning, it sounds well shoddy.

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i don't like 'em - they sound like the jam.

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Arrrgh why do people get their knickers in such a twist when bands re-release singles?? I don't get it?!!!

You don't have to buy it if you already have it. If you're a fan of this band, does it make any difference to you whether they release, say 'Carnival Kids', or re-relase 'Decent Days & Nights'? You know both the tunes from the album. So either you won't buy the single anyway because you know the a-side already (regardless of which one it whether it's 'Carnival Kids' or 'Decent Days & Nights'), or if you're an uberfan, you'll buy the single for the b-side, regardless of what the a-side is as you will inevitably know it already from the album. Please can someone explain what the problem of re-releasing singles is cos I just don't get it....?

On the other hand, the Futureheads are guilty of the re-issue, repackage thing by re-releasing the album with a bonus dvd, thus getting die hard fans to buy the album twice. That I do agree is particularly wrong.

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you wouldn't seriously go back and rebuy an album for a bonus DVD would you?

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Personally I reckon if they were going to re-release summat, it should have been Meantime which didnt get anywhere near the credit it deserves.

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Thing is though, the whole re-release/re-package/re-issue concept has nothing to do with the actual single. All it does is guarantee that one of the strongest tracks on the album/most obvious choice for a single gets consistent commercial radio airplay.Its all about maintaining a steady flow of album sales at the end of the day.
And yes, it does demean the band's credibility, whether its ultimately their decision or the record company's. After all, they didn't have to sign the contract, did they?

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So what difference does that make if it's a re-release or another track off the album? If you already own the album then you'll know whatever tune is released anyway ao it would make no difference to you what gets played on the radio does it? How does it demean the band's credibility?

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It's a brilliant single, that's for sure - the first time I heard I felt as though some divine force was actually moving my limbs in ridiculous patterns for me - it's just that the fact that it's being re-released seems to me to devalue it somewhat. I agree with many of the points that have been made here, it's just that there isn't really much need for them to re-release it; it wasn't exactly smothered in complete obscurity the first time round. I have heard some people say that the fact that they're re-releasing suggests a lack of decent unreleased material, and I can actually understand where they're coming from. I personally don't think it's true, but I can see why others who haven't heard the whole album would believe it. I suppose what it really comes down to is that many people think they're good enough not to have to re-release, as there is plenty of other, stronger material left on that album.

Then again, I'm having plenty of fun dancing around like an idiot every time it appears on the radio/music channels, so I'm content.

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"How does it demean the band's credibility?"

What, so ripping the fans off by constantly re-issuing the same record isn't demeaning the band's credibility?

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ARRRGGHHH how does it 'rip the fans off' if you re-release the same single??? How does it??!!!! Please explain cos I really really don't get it!!! The fans don't have to buy it again if they already have it do they?? That's not a rip off. If the fans are gonna by it for the b-sides, it doesn't matter what the a-side is because they aren't gonna be buying the single for that, as they'll probably already know the a-side regardless. Following your logic if you release a song as a single that's already available on the album, then you are ripping off your fans, as you're re-issuing a song that's already available elsewhere.

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How does it??!!!

You're having a laugh, right?
The next time you see a band issue a re-release FREE OF CHARGE in ALL record shops then I may agree with your sentiments.
In fact, if the single had initially come out as an initial run of 100 or so copies and was going for crazy money on e-bay I may even agree with the principle, but to re-release a single that actually made the Top 30 less than a year ago is just purely for the sake of financial greed, and if any artist or record label representative wants to come on here and debate that point, I'm waiting...

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So you absolutely have to buy a single if it gets re-released, even if you already own it? If you don't want it, or don't agree with it, don't buy it. If that many fans of a band think like you then they won't sell any copies. I admire your principles and the reasoning behind it, but I don't understand it. It's only a rip off if they hold a gun to your head & force you to buy it. I guess you own the Futureheads album right? Would you say it was a rip-off if they released 'Carnival Kids' as a single?

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Whether you buy it or not does not excuse the artist or record label's intentions which are ultimately to fleece the fans.
As for re-releasing 'Carnival Kids', at least they have a better excuse (get out clause?) in that it was their debut single and was only limited to several hundred copies so not many people will own it.
I have an even more novel idea Kleeb, how's about releasing some NEW material!

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Ha ha that would be the proper answer for all!!!
I don't agree it's to fleece the fans, I think it's to get radio play & therefore generate new fans.
We'll agree to disagree then!

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Generate more sales of the same stuff more like.
It's like with the Elvis re-issues. If there's a fanbase thats gullible enough to purchase the same thing over and over again there's a manufacturer out there thats always too willing to exploit it.

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Well, if you're an anal completist who buys records for the sake of owning everything ever released by an artist, you deserve to be fleeced ;-)

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"Well, if you're an anal completist who buys records for the sake of owning everything ever released by an artist, you deserve to be fleeced"

Can't argue with that mate.

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It's true. The record co makes a loss on singles don't they. They're just the end product of a 3month radio promotion scheme aren't they. So you can't say that re-released singles are produced to make money. I think it really is more about using a song which is tried and trusted and representative of how good the band can be to get new fans.

Dom, I think you're more angry about re-issued ALBUMS fleecing fans, not singles. But you're confused and so everything re-released is terrible. I'm right. I know I am :p

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You're right about the singles market being a loss leader, but I do have a problem with labels and artists who consistently re-release everything, whether that be singles, albums or DVDs.
My main gripe though is with people who defend the artists themselves and try and make out they've been "stitched up by the man", which is absolute rubbish as no one forces them into signing a contract.

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They artist and labels intention is not to rip off the fans. If you already own the single you don't have to buy it again. The intention is to build on the sucess of the previous single with extra airplay to attract NEW FANS into buying the album, which is where money is made. Singles are loss leaders, fact. Only anal indie purists would begrudge other people potentially enjoying a record simply because they didn't discover it early enough.

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Extracting money from a loyal fanbase by recycling the same product over and over again cannot be condoned mate, whatever way you wish to dress it up as.

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to describe yourself as a band's "loyal fan" is just excruciating ...

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for fuck's sake, the fans have a choice in whether they get fleeced. don't spend money and then whinge about it ....

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Sorry mate but while ever the likes of The Futureheads, Bloc Party, Kasabian, The Departure, The Killers et al continue to re-issue records that fared well the first time round I am perfectly justified in my criticisms.

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oh, for fuck's sake ... you can't make a fairly ill-founded criticism and then justify it by simply SAYING you are right. Consumers can only be ripped off if they choose to be. Record labels not charities etc etc etc.

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"you can't make a fairly ill-founded criticism"

Show me where it is ill-founded and I will apologise...

"and then justify it by simply SAYING you are right"

Not saying I'm right Jacob, just saying the record labels and ARTISTS are wrong.

"Consumers can only be ripped off if they choose to be"

Its that old supply and demand chestnut again though isn't it mate. You have a product that is highly in demand (in this case The Futureheads) so the only bi-product that is on offer to its customers (the LOYAL and burgeoning fanbase) is something that is already available and has been for some time but re-packaged in a different coloured box.

"Record labels not charities"

No one said they were or that they should be, but at least give the consumer a new product, something original, something different, not a rehashed, repackaged version of its current output. Not tha the record companies are entirely to blame...

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"Not saying I'm right"

you basically said that, so long as it happens, you're right. sounds like a fairly baseless assertion to me.

"but at least give the consumer a new product"

they give the consumers what they want. if there was no demand, then they wouldn't do it.

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They give the consumers - i.e. the loyal fans - little choice. Personally I hope this single bombs like a lead balloon, as it is all the artist and label deserve.

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any company which fails to meet a consumer demand will go out of business. Again, to talk of 'loyal fans' is just moronic - this isn't football.

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"Again, to talk of 'loyal fans' is just moronic - this isn't football."

So when Tesco and Sainsburys issue LOYALTY cards does that mean they have an alterior motive to do with football?
To dismiss loyalty as being synonymous with football is utterly moronic and unjustifiable, and you know it.

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do you know people who feel LOYAL to their supermarket? i buy music I like to listen to, not music that's been made by bands that i have loyalty towards.

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It's a brilliant single, that's for sure - the first time I heard I felt as though some divine force was actually moving my limbs in ridiculous patterns for me - it's just that the fact that it's being re-released seems to me to devalue it somewhat. I agree with many of the points that have been made here, it's just that there isn't really much need for them to re-release it; it wasn't exactly smothered in complete obscurity the first time round. I have heard some people say that the fact that they're re-releasing suggests a lack of decent unreleased material, and I can actually understand where they're coming from. I personally don't think it's true, but I can see why others who haven't heard the whole album would believe it. I suppose what it really comes down to is that many people think they're good enough not to have to re-release, as there is plenty of other, stronger material left on that album.

Then again, I'm having plenty of fun dancing around like an idiot every time it appears on the radio/music channels, so I'm content.

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I think it's cool they're releasing it again. I didn't have the chance to buy it when it first came out but now I do -yay!

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I don't know what 679 is like as a label but generally bands have very little say in what gets released/re-released?

the record industry is just that, an industry, and if they can get a good single out now when the band is red hot then they will try to rake it in.

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"I don't know what 679 is like as a label but generally bands have very little say in what gets released/re-released?"

I disagree 100% with this statement.

The record label draws up and issues the contract.
The band SIGN the contract.
The contract may contain clauses and smallprint over releasing rights etc.
If the band do not agree with these clauses they do not have to sign the contract.
Unless you're telling me the band cannot read!

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Yeah, but think of it like this: If they don't sign, they don't have a record deal.

I've worked promotions in the past where we had to sign contracts that said: "If the DJ doesn't turn up, you still have to pay him". Of course, that's ridiculous. But if we don't sign, we don't get the guy and someone else does. The music industry really is a pretty scummy place.

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very few bands who've never had a deal before are in any position to make demands of a record label. you're being extremely naive ...

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Believe me mate, if a label want you badly enough and think you will boost their annual turnover they would be more accomodating to the bands' requirements.
That is of course, if the bands' requirements differ from there's...???

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hands up who thought the Futureheads would ever have a top ten single?

until a band have actually flogged some records when it comes to negotiating the label ALWAYS has the upper hand. And by 'turnover' you mean 'profit'. Moron.

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"hands up who thought the Futureheads would ever have a top ten single?"

Hands up for those who actually give a shit.

"until a band have actually flogged some records when it comes to negotiating the label ALWAYS has the upper hand."

Really? So the sales of the '123 Null EP' didn't create the buzz around this band in the first place then that demonstrated their sales potential in the first place?

"And by 'turnover' you mean 'profit'."

Errr, no. I think you're jumping the gun there Jacob. Turnover is where profit is generated from.

"Moron."

I guess that makes it 3 points to me then Jacob, as you can't back your argument up with anything other than a personal insult. Cheers.

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no, i don't think the first EP sold enough to make anyone think they'd be massive so i don't see how the band could have had the upper hand in negotiating with a record label.

an increase in profit necessarily means an increase in turnover but an increase in turnover doesn't always mean higher profits. but there's no value in increased turnover and lower profits over the longer term, surely?

apologies for the insult.

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Re-releases of albums piss me off when they add an extra dvd or a live disc or something. Re-releases of singles are clearly just a marketing ploy, and they're ok if the original single was only out on a small pressing or summat. It is irritating when they do it with songs you've heard loads anyway though, namely this and Banquet. It's even more ridiculous when they make a worse remake of the original video, which was hardly great in the first place anyway (Banquet)

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If more bands did what Elbow did (offer the DVD for sale separately at a low cost and chuck in a couple of free MP3s), I wouldn't mind so much...

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I don't really hate the fact they've re-released it, but surely it must have been fairly obvious to the record company dudes that 'hounds of love' would get things moving- ie tv etc......I'd have issued one of theirs first, then hounds, THEN decent days.....it would have got things moving for them quicker and not condemned them to that crappy thing where a band tours it's album for two/three years, and consequently loses all momentum.

Touring odelay for so long turned Beck from an essential, important artiste into a self parodying christian sciencologist

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you have to laugh at the idea that this single is being released "purely for the sake of financial greed".
do you really think The Futureheads have come anywhere near close to making 679 back all the money that has been spent on them?
if your a Futureheads fan, then surely you want the band to be able to enjoy luxuries like food, rent and the chance to make another record? or would you rather they got dropped because they didnt recoup purely because of your childish moral stance on someones choice in promoting their band?

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Here's the answer to those wanting new stuff but not wanting to get ripped off.

Go to www.bignoisemusic.com. Buy 200 credits (£2). For 199 of those, you can download all six tracks from the 3 formats and burn it, so no having three more items cluttering up your house. And 20p of it goes to Oxfam. And with the one remaining credit, you can search their database and stream a track you fancy listening to. Everyone wins. It's what I did, anyway. It also means that the many of you without record players (including me) get to hear the ace "Appreciate The Effort".