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what the fuck is it? it looks like leftover curtains.
and the foo fighters weren't as bad as i thought they'd be.
come on arcade fire!
i particularly enjoyed the bit where they individually pushed their faces into the camera. a crossbow! now why didn't i think of that when they played glastonbury last year?
urgh his pointless wankery over countless tedious world music artists is so depressing. i know i'm sounding unenlightened here but that woman should be singing in the background to a sting song or something.
and the arcade power thing is almost as bad as when at the drive-in were on tfi friday and donna air said they were called one armed scissor and their single was at the drive-in. jools was probably more busy drooling over that twatting woman he so obviously wants to grope.
arcade fire were truly ace though. as expected.
and ry cooder rocks my ass. i want him and tom waits and marc ribot to team up for a crazy cuban masterpiece, but it'll never happen.
Hmmm hard fi were using lots of backing tapes, including backing vocals and then had the other members pretending to be singing it, thats fucking scandalous on a live show....if you cant sing it don't record it.
oh my GOD!!! is there anyone more self-serving than Jools Holland! I can't believe he orchestrated him playing boogaloo backing piano for that woman he obviously wants to molest after the show
i don't think his age is really anything to do with it.
if you look for a model of jools holland in his 20s, who do you have?
Matt Bellamy.
Later with Matt Bellamy would be just as excruciating in places, but at least he wasn't in Squeeze.
no, you twat, they wouldn't. the man is a fool, which is a non age-specific term of abuse. i also think dick and dom are wankers and they're what - 12? (are you, by any chance, in your forties? if so, do you maybe think that you should stop taking everything in the world so personally and try to get a bit of perspective?)
I think arcade fire where awe inspiring as usually no kings though. It was nice to seee them surrounded with different muscians for once besides the normal
yet that final number with mariza was amazin, I feel they were shown up, a brave 2nd to her though...What is up with people saying she should sing in the back ground you guys she go out get som camila or seu jorge tomorrow
she was great. WHY did ry cooder not actually play anything? NNGGH. three black eyed peas songs, each worse than the last, and nothing by him at all. how utterly depressing. hard fi were laughable. p-u-b-r-o-c-k.
I'm amazed Ry Cooder didn't play anything either. They gave that woman three slots and left one of the greatest musicians of the last 40 years to have a half-arsed chinwag behind a piano. Pffft.
I listen to music all night thru my headphones, and I had Jools Holland on the tv, the only time I lifted my headphones was to listen to the foos, they rock. Out of interest I'd listen to the other acts only to find their music is truely forgettable.
knocking bands with tapes is so elton
everyone does it
remember stop making sense?
if the stuff you do over the top is rubbish though fair enough
i'd have preferred hard fi if they'd played minus twice
Next week will be unforgetable!! It's the 'mighty' Fall!!!!! Apparently MES is the first person to draw up a contract ensuring that Jools doesnt play boogie woogie piano during their performance!! Also, he kept calling Robert Plant 'Cunty'!! I guess thats been edited out tho
No everyone doesn't use backing tapes thats bollocks, just in the context of tonights show look at the arcade fire who utilised about 10 different insrtuments and backing vocals, the bird was switching from glockenspiel to organ whilst singing, whilst hard fi couldnt even be arsed to sing their own backing vocals its just lazy.
Glad to see the Foos have found some tunes again - the last album was a bit shitty, IMHO. I really wasn't sure about Arcade Fire before the show, but i've got to admit they blew me away - one of those great bands you just can't tie down to any particular sound. Hard-Fi were aweful, as were the Black Eyed Peas- i really can't see why people fancy the tits off the woman- she's not all that by any stretch of the imagination.
Still pisses all over TOTP - mind you, a guest slot from little miss Cotton would be nice every few weeks, just so Uncle Jools can get a bit of a rest - and try and remember the names of the bands playing. Arcade Power indeed!
"insrtuments" eh?you've proved my point 10 or more is just too confusing.i admit i'm biased and do not like bands with too many people in them.a lot of bands agree its either have some poor musicians off stage playing other parts(placebo)or backing tapes.
i agree that vocals should pretty much always be sung live.
It might just be me but I thought the Black Eyed Peas were really good, the first song was fantastic and throughout they showed real enthusiasm about their music. Arcade Fire were of course excellent, Rebellion especially, the Portugese women was suprisingly good, Hard Fi were better than expected and the Foo Fighters were absolute shit. Mmmm, imagine if Ry Cooder had played.
i think arcade fire and mariza blew everyone else away. i was incredibly dissapointed by the foos, and hate to say it but they were boring! i think they've been past it since one by one :(
Arcade Fire.....as has already been established, were awesome. The Foo Fighters were surprisingly good, I liked the first tune they did, and really liked the acoustic number Grohl did. At last he's finally showing that he's not just a great drummer. I thought Mariza was top too. The insincerety of Jools Holland made me want to puke in the nearest shoe.....Ha ha "Lord Toad"...ha ha heee!
i liked the bit on the first black eyed peas song were there were like four vocals overlapping, i like stuff like that. rest was terrible of course tho.
and im noticing something with canadian bands on tv, the vocals are terrible. was same with the dears. the music is brilliant and on record is good but thought the live vocals disappointing.
good to see the arcade fire showin no enthusiasm between songs tho :)
I'd never heard the Arcade Fire, but after that performance I was quite shocked. I wasn't expecting violinists and the like. Very different, not what I'd go for, but they did play very well.
I thought the Acoustic Foo Fighters song was pretty good, and I don't like them at all really...
The Black Eyed Peas weren't that bad, you bunch of miserable sods. I'd rather "the kids" were listening to that kind of pop-hip-hop rubbish than I dunno......Steps.
The portuguese woman had a decent voice, but the songs were a bit backround music-y.
Hard-Fi were mediocre, but better than the Kaiser Chiefs at least. The guy's eyebrows worried me though.
The Arcade Fire had a great sound, but I wasn't hugely impressed by the songs and/or the David Byrneyelp... They sounded like a better version of Modest Mouse
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Don't hurt me. Maybe they'd sound better on record, there was too much stuff going on that got lost because of the rubbish sound.
The foo fighters were ok...neither song was amazing or groundbreaking but they were ok (i missed the first song so i don't know what that was like).
Hard-fi were dull. They reminded me very strongly of something (not sure what) and unfortunatly i'm fairly sure i don't like whatever it was they reminded me of.
Arcade fire were awesome but the vocals could be accused of comeing across poorly at times.
The portageese person was good but stuck to traditional styles too much to be too relevant or worthwhile.
Black eyed peas were ok. Better then expected.
Jools holland was irritating as normal. Why the hell did he keep talking to that catherine tate person? Yeah, but no, but yeah got annoying quickly when the little britian did it. The last thing the world needs is her cover version!
are you trying to tell me that fat fighters on little britain is a rip off from the job centre on league of gentlemen ?
are you ?
is that what you're saying ?
cos i think you'd be right to say so
It's hardly surprising if Mark Gatiss has been writing on Little Britain is it? I'm looking forward to the League of Gentlemen film on June 3rd....it looks suitably strange. Keeping my fingers crossed that they'll do another series.
"The Portugeese person was good but stuck to traditional styles too much to be too relevant or worthwhile. " So, are you saying that every performer of traditional music around the world has to make their music sound like every dumb pop record.
No. I think music should adapt and change over time. I said hard-fi was too derivitive of other bands so it would be hypocritical to then hold up something which is following in an either longer line of very similar artists as amazing. Is it in some way wrong to hope for people to put their own individuality and originality into music? How does it make it more "pop" to encourage new ideas? I liked it but its too reliant on traditional arrangements to be a major inovating and exciting piece of music.
"I liked it but its too reliant on traditional arrangements to be a major inovating and exciting piece of music. " Traditional music is by definition, traditional. You seem to not like it because it is traditional. Perhaps you'd like to see a remix of Blue Danube Waltz?
"I liked it". This means i'm not saying i don't like it. The opposite in fact.
At the end of the day traditional artists are good in some ways but i like to see people being progressive and having their own elements to bring to a record and took some incentive to be progressive.
I'm not saying its bad (because its not bad) just that it could be better in my opinion if it was less reliant on other peoples work and injected more individuality to make it stand out from a lot of other similar artists.
In answer to your question: Yes, if it was good.
Does this make the original any worse or in my opinion bad? No.
really_inspired_username, I understand your point, but if all living artists interpreted and changed traditional music, then the music would be lost. I like to hear an orchestra perform Beethowven as the composer wanted it performed, I like to hear folk music from around the world performed as the original performer performed it.
If every new artist performing traditional music updates it then it disappears. This applies even if it is a new song. What's wrong with a composer writing a piece of music that could have been written a few hundred years ago?
A traditional style of music needn't disappear just because everybody who was around at the time is now dead.
Pop music evolves, traditional music needn't do so.
If only those hard-fi chaps had got the royal philamonic orchestra to play with them, then they wouldnt need those backing tapes.
Maybe you know it all gentlemen should go and watch them before criticising them, it was totally obvious the sound for both hard-fi and Arcade fire was very poor, in fact everytime ive seen the arcade fire on television they sound terrible compared to what they are like live, so please only put down bands once youve seen them in the flesh.
Arcade Fire were absolutely brilliantamazingfantastic...I could go on! I only heard them for the first time last week after EVERYONE has been talking about them, and was immediately impressed. One thing I noticed though is that the singer sounded worringly like Jack White sometimes!
Black-Eyed Peas weren't as terrible as I imagined they would be.
Hard-Fi singer reminded me of Freddie Mercury with 'the Teeth'
Mariza was ok.
I worry about the Foo Fighters these days. 'The Colour and the Shape' is occasionally my favourite album ever, but I don't really like much of the other Foo Fighters' stuff. Going by last night, I think the acoustic part of the new album will be much better than the rest, which seemed either average or dull, or both.
I don't think I've ever seen a crap *performance* on Later, just ones by groups/artists that I don't like, or songs that I don't like. Now if they only got someone who could actually interview people and not just, I don't know, confuse them for 2 minutes, then the show would be great.
Arcade Fire were fantastic, his voice was a bit out of tune in parts though.
Hard-Fi were just boring. Did anyone see on Popworld where Simon took the piss out of the record company press release thing describing them?
Black Eyed Peas were okay, they were semi-interesting to watch.
Mariza had a good voice but I didn't find the songs that interesting.
Foo Fighters were okay, I liked the acoustic song.
I'm still unconvinced about Arcade Fire. They seem to be a one-song band. Why did they look so intense on stage when the technical proficiency required to play the songs was fairly straightforward for competant musicians? Their performance on Later... was half-way between Belle And Sebastian and The Polyphonic Spree.
No, you said why did they look so intense on stage when the technical proficiency required to play the songs was fairly straightforward for competant musicians? Now to me that is saying that a band whose songs are simple (technical progiciency required to play the songs was fairly straightforward) should not be energetic or "intense" on stage.
No. By intense I was referring to their general demeanor, which does not necessarily have any connection whatsoever to the frequency or extent of their movements.
So you've made your assumption about this band, and their 'ones song' from 2 songs on Later....? Do you own their album or EP?
Perhaps they looked intense on stage because they inject their music with a passion and energy which comes from truly believing in and actually enjoying what they do.
Don't see how you can make a decision on whether you like a band or not based on a Later.. appearance. All that visual stuff will actually get in the way of hearing the music surely?
you know nothing about them old chap so maybe you should keep your thoughts to yourself until youve heard the album, and when you do ill let you kiss my hat and say im very sorry your lordship but they are a ska band.
Black Eye Peas were shite, and for some reason they played 3 songs. Rubbish rapping over stollen riffs whilst making kerrrazy faces at the camera does not a good band make.
Hi-Fi were gash and boring.
The Portugese woman whose name I can't remember had a good voice and the flamenco style guitar was nice but other than that it was pretty boring as well.
The Arcade Fire were superb, the vocals started off a bit shakey on Power Out (maybe because they had to cut the intro due to time restrictions) but they soon got in their flow and sounded great (the vocals have never been particulary their strongest element anyway).
Thought the two Foo rock songs were a bit formulaic but I liked the acoustic one by Grohl on his own.
Jools was his normal buffleheaded self. The mans a shrub
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"that was the arcade power!"
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you can smell it from the tv screen
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the world has gone mad.
someone get me my crossbow.
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and the arcade power thing is almost as bad as when at the drive-in were on tfi friday and donna air said they were called one armed scissor and their single was at the drive-in. jools was probably more busy drooling over that twatting woman he so obviously wants to grope.
arcade fire were truly ace though. as expected.
and ry cooder rocks my ass. i want him and tom waits and marc ribot to team up for a crazy cuban masterpiece, but it'll never happen.
Jamie
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why oh why oh why oh why
i know the show is supposed to show different aspects of modern music,but its not supposed to make you feel like throwing up!!
i cant wait till next week with mark e smith,the last great englishmen indeed.
viola! the sons of temperance
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why oh why oh why oh why
i know the show is supposed to show different aspects of modern music,but its not supposed to make you feel like throwing up!!
i cant wait till next week with mark e smith,the last great englishmen indeed.
viola! the sons of temperance
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i only just got back from band practice......
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hard-fi have played twice now..
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god bless arcade fire
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im rather boogalooed!
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what do you think, jools?
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if you look for a model of jools holland in his 20s, who do you have?
Matt Bellamy.
Later with Matt Bellamy would be just as excruciating in places, but at least he wasn't in Squeeze.
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yet that final number with mariza was amazin, I feel they were shown up, a brave 2nd to her though...What is up with people saying she should sing in the back ground you guys she go out get som camila or seu jorge tomorrow
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what about fucking black eyed peas!
one song was pushing it. three was laughing in the face of anyone with ears and pain receptors.
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everyone does it
remember stop making sense?
if the stuff you do over the top is rubbish though fair enough
i'd have preferred hard fi if they'd played minus twice
jools should get some bands with no cash on
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i fart in yr general direction.
I missed it. bah/.
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what sort of former breakdancers were they anyway?
that guy with the mohawk sucked.
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Still pisses all over TOTP - mind you, a guest slot from little miss Cotton would be nice every few weeks, just so Uncle Jools can get a bit of a rest - and try and remember the names of the bands playing. Arcade Power indeed!
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Help. No.
I can't undertsand a word she says; she talks like a five-year-old.
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i agree that vocals should pretty much always be sung live.
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and im noticing something with canadian bands on tv, the vocals are terrible. was same with the dears. the music is brilliant and on record is good but thought the live vocals disappointing.
good to see the arcade fire showin no enthusiasm between songs tho :)
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Hard Fi. The name's almost as bad as the band.
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I thought the Acoustic Foo Fighters song was pretty good, and I don't like them at all really...
The Black Eyed Peas weren't that bad, you bunch of miserable sods. I'd rather "the kids" were listening to that kind of pop-hip-hop rubbish than I dunno......Steps.
The portuguese woman had a decent voice, but the songs were a bit backround music-y.
Hard-Fi were mediocre, but better than the Kaiser Chiefs at least. The guy's eyebrows worried me though.
The Arcade Fire had a great sound, but I wasn't hugely impressed by the songs and/or the David Byrneyelp... They sounded like a better version of Modest Mouse
with strings.
Don't hurt me. Maybe they'd sound better on record, there was too much stuff going on that got lost because of the rubbish sound.
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Hard-fi were dull. They reminded me very strongly of something (not sure what) and unfortunatly i'm fairly sure i don't like whatever it was they reminded me of.
Arcade fire were awesome but the vocals could be accused of comeing across poorly at times.
The portageese person was good but stuck to traditional styles too much to be too relevant or worthwhile.
Black eyed peas were ok. Better then expected.
Jools holland was irritating as normal. Why the hell did he keep talking to that catherine tate person? Yeah, but no, but yeah got annoying quickly when the little britian did it. The last thing the world needs is her cover version!
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And her show is much much funnier than Little "One joke League Of Gentlemen rip-off" Britain.
It was annoying though.
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are you ?
is that what you're saying ?
cos i think you'd be right to say so
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At the end of the day traditional artists are good in some ways but i like to see people being progressive and having their own elements to bring to a record and took some incentive to be progressive.
I'm not saying its bad (because its not bad) just that it could be better in my opinion if it was less reliant on other peoples work and injected more individuality to make it stand out from a lot of other similar artists.
In answer to your question: Yes, if it was good.
Does this make the original any worse or in my opinion bad? No.
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If every new artist performing traditional music updates it then it disappears. This applies even if it is a new song. What's wrong with a composer writing a piece of music that could have been written a few hundred years ago?
A traditional style of music needn't disappear just because everybody who was around at the time is now dead.
Pop music evolves, traditional music needn't do so.
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Maybe you know it all gentlemen should go and watch them before criticising them, it was totally obvious the sound for both hard-fi and Arcade fire was very poor, in fact everytime ive seen the arcade fire on television they sound terrible compared to what they are like live, so please only put down bands once youve seen them in the flesh.
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Black-Eyed Peas weren't as terrible as I imagined they would be.
Hard-Fi singer reminded me of Freddie Mercury with 'the Teeth'
Mariza was ok.
I worry about the Foo Fighters these days. 'The Colour and the Shape' is occasionally my favourite album ever, but I don't really like much of the other Foo Fighters' stuff. Going by last night, I think the acoustic part of the new album will be much better than the rest, which seemed either average or dull, or both.
I don't think I've ever seen a crap *performance* on Later, just ones by groups/artists that I don't like, or songs that I don't like. Now if they only got someone who could actually interview people and not just, I don't know, confuse them for 2 minutes, then the show would be great.
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Hard-Fi were just boring. Did anyone see on Popworld where Simon took the piss out of the record company press release thing describing them?
Black Eyed Peas were okay, they were semi-interesting to watch.
Mariza had a good voice but I didn't find the songs that interesting.
Foo Fighters were okay, I liked the acoustic song.
*considers career in music journalism*
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So you think that bands should not move on stage unless their songs are really musical challenging? So the Ramones should have stood still?
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Perhaps they looked intense on stage because they inject their music with a passion and energy which comes from truly believing in and actually enjoying what they do.
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That's right, an assumption, not a final decision.
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Did anyone else think that Win from Arcade Fire looks a bit like Rik Mayall? lol.
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he's much more dreamy eyed though, methinks.
after seeing them on jools, i am absolutely gutted to have missed them live, they were breathtaking.
can't believe they had ry cooder on, ry cooder! and he didnt perform!
the foo fighters were a bit rubbish really
and the black eyed peas were god awful. miserlou! christ.
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take "alright". that could pretty much be a madness song. madness did ska stuff.
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They blow AND suck.
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Black Eye Peas were shite, and for some reason they played 3 songs. Rubbish rapping over stollen riffs whilst making kerrrazy faces at the camera does not a good band make.
Hi-Fi were gash and boring.
The Portugese woman whose name I can't remember had a good voice and the flamenco style guitar was nice but other than that it was pretty boring as well.
The Arcade Fire were superb, the vocals started off a bit shakey on Power Out (maybe because they had to cut the intro due to time restrictions) but they soon got in their flow and sounded great (the vocals have never been particulary their strongest element anyway).
Thought the two Foo rock songs were a bit formulaic but I liked the acoustic one by Grohl on his own.
Jools was his normal buffleheaded self. The mans a shrub